Cops Gone Wild At Cal Berkeley

At the Occupy demonstration at Cal Berkeley, on campus, cops in full riot gear, using their batons in a thrusting motion, appear to initiate contact with students:

Did you see any “student violence” that would justify this action? Who will pay damage awards to those young women when they find themselves unable to have children in a few years?

(H/T DeRosaWorld.)

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  • upyernoz  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 10:51 am

    apparently, one of the people who was beaten up by the police was fairly famous poet robert hass (at least as famous as poets get these days)

    clearly police had no choice but to beat the crap out of a 70 year old poet

    • Steve  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 11:26 am

      I just don’t get it, ‘noz. Even the worst among cops, who have no scruples about that sort of thing, should realize that in any gathering today, at any given moment, there are always two or more videocams running.

      “clearly police had no choice but to beat the crap out of a 70 year old poet”

      Next they’ll go after Ferlinghetti (b. 1919)…

  • jams o donnell  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Well the students are clearly a bunch of commie deadbeats so I’m surprised that the Liebstandarte were clearly within their rights to beat the shit out of them.

    • Steve  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 10:30 pm

      jams – including, of course, beating the shit out of young women of childbearing age, specifically, repeatedly poking them with a baton in the vicinity of their reproductive organs. They certainly had the right to do that. [/snark]

  • karmanot  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    I sure wouldn’t mess with Ferlinghetti. He’ll sick some meat poets on em and stun them into comas.

    • Steve  On Friday November 11, 2011 at 10:33 pm

      “He’ll sick some meat poets on em”

      karmanot, you’re angling for “typo of the week”! But yes, Ferlinghetti is pretty surely the last living among the original Beat poets, and if any of those cops are made to read every word of, say, “On the Road,” or “Howl,” they’re done for! 🙂

  • Lab Kat  On Saturday November 12, 2011 at 1:46 am

    Sadly, I feel like this behavior (police) will not stop until a citizen dies, either outright or at a hospital. The police will use the “poor us, getting beaten on” defense and video after video and eyewitness accounts will prove them wrong.

    I so hope I’m wrong. These women and men are doing nothing but peacefully demonstrating against one of the many great wrongs suffered by the American people. And, it is growing, therefore the police continue to hurt and terrorize them. We’ve already seen one person nearly die and many, many more going to the hospitals and jails. And, now…. targeting women like this? An action that would land you in jail if you were a “civvy.”

    I hope our country has the honor to get through this.

    • Steve  On Saturday November 12, 2011 at 9:34 am

      LK, I’m not sure if you’re old enough to remember the late 1960s, but we have been through this before. Just one example among many… in Chicago in 1968, near the Democratic national convention, cops beat protesters mercilessly. And there was the Kent State tragedy.: four students killed when Ohio National Guard troops fired into a crowd at an anti-Vietnam-war protest on campus. And a few years back there was the WTO protest in Seattle; that got pretty rough, too.

      Somehow we got through all those things. And the things protested… Vietnam and trade agreements disadvantageous to the 99 percent… became, and stayed, front page news for a time.

      Unfortunately, the American tradition includes not only the right to protest but the de facto right of police to beat the crap out of protesters. That isn’t going away any time soon. But it is how we accomplish change.

      If you haven’t read Gandhi’s autobiography, you may find it interesting. He understood that being met with violence… and not responding with the same… is inevitably part of the process of protest, and that it is a sign that you are winning: “First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win.”

      (Google, mighty Google, just asked me if I meant to search for ” ‘then you win’ GHANDI”. Somebody there is sure to be embarrassed when that is discovered!)

      • Bryan  On Sunday November 13, 2011 at 7:47 pm

        Steve, something that people forget about Kent State, and the reason Ohio had to pay significant settlement money, is that those who were killed were not part of the demonstration. The Guard apparently fired over the heads of the protestors and killed people well away from the actual protest.

        It’s the old problem of bullets not evaporating when they miss the target that surprises people who fire guns into the air in celebrations.

        • Steve  On Sunday November 13, 2011 at 9:50 pm

          Bryan, I was aware of that, but my question today is the same as my question then: why was the Ohio National Guard facing a group of students… any group of students… with live rounds in their weapons? Not rubber bullets; not beanbags… live ammunition. I’m not arguing that some of the students were not disorderly; clearly they were (though apparently none carried firearms). I’m arguing only that the overreaction was completely outside the pale, and a stain on the honor of the Ohio National Guard. The President’s Commission on Campus Unrest ruled more or less the same thing: “unnecessary, unwarranted, and inexcusable.”

          Kent State University suffered for years… no, decades. Parents were (irrationally) reluctant to send their children to school there. The very name “Kent State” meant only one thing to the vast majority of Americans… for three more than two more decades that I know of, as reported to me by students who attended Kent State in approximately the year 2000 1995.

          An aside: I once lived in an up/down duplex in which a shot fired at random on New Year’s Eve came through the upstairs bedroom window. No one was hit, but it was a near thing. Everyone who uses a firearm needs to think before they shoot: where will the bullet go?

  • L’Enfant de la Haute Mer  On Saturday November 12, 2011 at 1:47 am


    • Steve  On Saturday November 12, 2011 at 9:41 am

      Yeah, Enfant, nonviolence… by the protesters. It’s a clever cartoon, but I really can’t hold with the subcaption, presumably by Mike Flugennock, which I quote here:

      After a decade of observing police thuggery against protests in Los Angeles, Seattle, and New York City along with the recent police attacks on unarmed protesters at Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland, and comparing it against similar scenes I witnessed in video from Athens, Bahrain and Cairo, I can’t help but conclude that Nonviolence™ is an ideological luxury affordable only to the cushy-living white middle-class activists of the United States.

      All I can say is this: consult Gandhi, as quoted in my previous comment. Unless you are prepared to undertake violent revolution and succeed at it… practically impossible in many places, including America… nonviolent civil disobedience is not a luxury but the behavior of choice, the likely most effective course.

      As to being among the “cushy-living white middle-class activists,” I proudly plead guilty.

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