Herman Cain, Darling Of The GOP, Would Build Electrified Border Fence To Kill Mexicans

And he’s very self-righteous about it:

Here is TPM’s Ryan J. Reilly, quoting the New York Times:

Mr. Cain, speaking at a Tea Party-sponsored rally in Tennessee, made some of his most pointed remarks yet on the issue. He said he might use military troops “with real guns and real bullets” to stop intruders.

Responding to anyone who might consider his remarks “insensitive,” Mr. Cain said the real fault lies with some illegal immigrants. “It’s insensitive for them to be killing our citizens, killing our border agents,” he said. “That’s what’s insensitive. And that mess has to stop.”

The first commenter at TPM says that Cain needs a psychiatric evaluation, and as easy as it is to say such a thing as a throw-away criticism, I agree, in all earnest: Cain must be crazy to advocate such a thing, even in deliberately overblown campaign rhetoric.

Some Mexican-Americans I know here… American citizens… have relatives in Mexico. I’m pretty sure that they don’t do farm work; they’re better off than that… but I know for certain they would take offense if the U.S. built an electrified fence at the border.

Meanwhile, Alabama, which probably largely supports Cain in his remarks, is beginning to get push-back from the courts on their radical anti-undocumented-immigrant law … not to mention that their vegetables are rotting in the fields as Hispanic farmworkers seek less risky venues.

This is all just one more aspect of wealthy Americans, along with an irrationally terrified part of the middle class, failing to acknowledge who is indispensable to their receiving their daily “bread.” Mean-spiritedness has its own rewards, and hunger may well be one of them. Don’t like undocumented immigrant farmworkers? just stop eating and stop farming; they’ll stop coming. [/snark]

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  • jams o donnell  On Sunday October 16, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Bloody he;; I take it that Cain is dick swinging for the GOP audience… I hope it is just that. I read about the new law in Alabama. Utterly revolting

    • Steve  On Sunday October 16, 2011 at 11:07 am

      jams, Cain’s qualifications for being president amount to this:

      * He runs a pizza chain.

      That’s it, as far as I can tell. But it doesn’t matter, because the GOP will never run an African American candidate for president… forget it, it won’t happen. They finally ran a woman for vice president, 28 years after the Democrats did the same. I wouldn’t call the Republicans quick on the uptake, except in matters of sheer spiteful meanness.

      The Alabama law is only the worst among a spate of new state laws intended to force undocumented Mexicans to leave. The fact that tomatoes are rotting in the fields because there is no one to pick them seems not to have registered on Alabama’s racists.

  • jams o donnell  On Sunday October 16, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    ON a separate note have you seen the vid of NYPD’s finest at that Citibank branch in NY? I am glad our police don’t use heavy handed tactics against innocent bystanders… Oh wait!

    • Steve  On Monday October 17, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      jams, I don’t think there’s any Western democracy right now that manages to escape some police excesses. “These are the times that try men’s souls,” and it’s not going to be easy for a while. Maybe you’ll live to see how it all shakes out; I doubt I will. But it has to happen.

  • Bryan  On Monday October 17, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    I hope they build it, because 30 minutes after they turn it on the frontier zone of Mexico will have the electrical infrastructure they currently lack. If you have spent time in Mexico and seen the variety of home-built methods for distributing electricity around a colonia, Cain’s fence would be a miracle of convenience for thousands of poor Mexicans.

    The Mexicans are poor, not stupid, and if the fence is built, they will use it as a resource. If you build a 12-foot wall, they will build 13-foot ladders [probably with parts of the wall] If you give them a source of electricity, they will adapt it.

    Of course, Cain is going to have to raise taxes to pay for the electricity to power all of the settlements as well as build the fence, so it doesn’t sound very fiscally prudent to me.

    • Steve  On Monday October 17, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      Bryan, it occurred to me that the people most likely to fry themselves on such a fence are American teens with something to prove. And while I wouldn’t want to live the way the residents of the colonias live, there is no doubt that the people there are every bit as savvy and resourceful as anyone here. If, Dog help us, Cain takes office, let him tax us for the additional power; I for one will cheerfully pay it and laugh as his base goes after him for raising taxes.

      (Seriously, though, the GOP will not run an African American for president. As I noted above, they lagged the Dems in running a woman for veep by 28 years. I doubt they’ll ever run any person of color on a presidential ticket.)

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